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    • Woa. Something about the way you put that... Gives a whole new understanding (to me, at least) of "the kingdom of god is within you." See, I always kinda thought of the kingdom of God as...

      3 hours ago by Jesse Evans

      in The Kingdom of God

    • Well I was always under the impression that "freedom costs a buck-o-five." Seriously though, I think I like the heart of what you're saying here (we're offered salvation (freedom)...

      4 hours ago by Zack Allen

      in Independence day sort of

    • Yes, I suppose that could describe our experience of it, Jesse. But I'm more interested in the reality of the kingdom that Jesus proclaimed. If it comes slowly to us because we're not...

      15 hours ago by paul munn

      in The Kingdom of God

    • I see what you're saying Paul. As another possible perspective, it could be one of those things that just "creep up on you." Like, all the signs are there but you just don't see...

      22 hours ago by Jesse Evans

      in The Kingdom of God

    • No interest in this question? Maybe it would help if I was a little more explicit. Here's a piece from a journal entry on this subject, from several years ago, referring to a Methodist belief...

      1 day ago by paul munn

      in The Kingdom of God

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Incarnational versus Incorporational

Started by markvans · 10 months ago

I just stumbled upon a fascinating post by Geoff Holsclaw that is well worth a look.  You may not agree with him, but his proposal shows the sort of creativity and radical shift that needs to happen among Christians in this country (imho).  The basic idea is:
…that th ... Continue reading »

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  • My response to posts like this is always:

    1. Could this ever really work?
    2. Is it worth the tremendous cumulative co$t to me? (Wal-Mart always has lower prices. Always.)

    The way of Jesus is so impractical.
  • not practical but necessary
  • i remember reading in Colossians Re-Mixed that the Empire is winning when we no longer are able to imagine an alternative, when things seems inevitable.

    What I was suggesting is not really that practical, but as jerry said, I do think it is necessary.
  • I think there are lessons we can learn from European Christians like Ruth Valerio, author of L is for Lifestyle.

    I think if more US Christians pressured Walmart and Target and Costco, we could get them to have more fair trade versions of products that cost somewhat more but are guaranteed to have paid their workers significantly better in better working conditions.

    I don't think we can say no completely to MNCs, they are part of the authorities of this age, but I think we can play them off each other somewhat and force them to abide by different rules.

    I also think that we shd be pressing for a minimum wage of 60 cents per hour on all products and their parts that are made for export to the US. Sixty cents per hour will enable someone working 3000 hours a week, not uncommon in the third world, to make 5 dollars a day. That may sound like not much, but it would make a diff. It would also help us with our trade-imbalance with PRoChina that hamstrings us from pushing for more protections for Christians there.
    dlw

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