http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/enTue, 20 Sep 2005 12:25:07 -0000http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/?p=86#comment-5287678<p>Actually, they created their own label owned by Billie Joe and his wife.</p>LauraTue, 20 Sep 2005 12:25:07 -0000http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/?p=86#comment-5287673<p>Actually, they created their own label owned by Billie Joe and his wife.</p>LauraTue, 20 Sep 2005 12:25:07 -0000http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/?p=86#comment-5287677<p>Mark - I remember when Green Day was an underground band and would never sell out to a major label, guess they blew that one. Not that I blame them, but in their hometown (Berkley) they are widely made fun of. So, I love the fact that the sell-outs are the anti-establishment, when they are really just a creation of another establishment. Aren't we having lunch soon? Email me and we will set it up. JVD</p>Joseph DworakMon, 19 Sep 2005 12:37:19 -0000http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/?p=86#comment-5287672<p>Mark - I remember when Green Day was an underground band and would never sell out to a major label, guess they blew that one. Not that I blame them, but in their hometown (Berkley) they are widely made fun of. So, I love the fact that the sell-outs are the anti-establishment, when they are really just a creation of another establishment. Aren't we having lunch soon? Email me and we will set it up. JVD</p>Joseph DworakMon, 19 Sep 2005 12:37:19 -0000http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/?p=86#comment-5287676<p>I can't go to these type of things with out getting totally worked up. However, I agree with you that Christianity, or rather, the Church, has lost it 'edge', as in, we aren't edgy, we don't impact society, and we don't set the course of culture. Instead, we get caught up in the flow of where society is going, usually down, and try to 'redeem' it or do damage control.<br><br><br>When I say "edgy", I don't mean artificially hip, slick, and cool. I mean if we really believed what we preached, really lived it, that would be edgy.<br></p>Surly DaveSun, 18 Sep 2005 21:41:31 -0000http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/?p=86#comment-5287670<p>I can't go to these type of things with out getting totally worked up. However, I agree with you that Christianity, or rather, the Church, has lost it 'edge', as in, we aren't edgy, we don't impact society, and we don't set the course of culture. Instead, we get caught up in the flow of where society is going, usually down, and try to 'redeem' it or do damage control.</p><p>When I say "edgy", I don't mean artificially hip, slick, and cool. I mean if we really believed what we preached, really lived it, that would be edgy.</p>Surly DaveSun, 18 Sep 2005 21:41:31 -0000http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/?p=86#comment-5287675<p><strong>Mark VanS Goes to Green Day</strong><br><br><br>Pastors need to go to more rock concerts. Period. We just seem to get inspired. Which is to say, you've got to read Mark VanS' thoughts after the Green Day concert.<br><br><br><br>This is the best blog post I've read in a while....<br></p>Frogtown PastorSat, 17 Sep 2005 21:28:24 -0000http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/?p=86#comment-5287674<p>Gosh, Mark. This is the best post I've read on any blog in a while.</p>pat kSat, 17 Sep 2005 21:21:56 -0000http://www.jesusmanifesto.com/?p=86#comment-5287669<p>Gosh, Mark. This is the best post I've read on any blog in a while.</p>pat kSat, 17 Sep 2005 21:21:56 -0000