2e...fair enough. But here is the thing: I am unable to offer a solid defense of "ECM" since we're all from different theological traditions. I shouldn't lump you in with all the "fundamentalist reform guys," but I suspect that folks that read MacArthur have more in common with each other than folks that read Brian McLaren (by the way, I haven't read much of McLaren and I have NEVER read any other book by someone tied to Emergent). Evangelical Reformed theology is much much more monolithic and has clearly identifiable leaders, whereas ECM is de-centralized and doesn't really have any identifiable set of spokespeople. What folks at Emergent are trying to do is broker conversation, not lead a movement (at least, that is what they are mostly about). This is why I can point out major flaws in mainstream evangelicalism, yet not ECM...ECM is more a set of movements. Nevertheless, I have offered critiques of Emergent Village, Spencer Burke, and the Emerging church in general before on this blog.
dlw
· 2 years ago
You Da Man!
dlw
Van S
· 2 years ago
2e...fair enough. But here is the thing: I am unable to offer a solid defense of "ECM" since we're all from different theological traditions. I shouldn't lump you in with all the "fundamentalist reform guys," but I suspect that folks that read MacArthur have more in common with each other than folks that read Brian McLaren (by the way, I haven't read much of McLaren and I have NEVER read any other book by someone tied to Emergent). Evangelical Reformed theology is much much more monolithic and has clearly identifiable leaders, whereas ECM is de-centralized and doesn't really have any identifiable set of spokespeople. What folks at Emergent are trying to do is broker conversation, not lead a movement (at least, that is what they are mostly about). This is why I can point out major flaws in mainstream evangelicalism, yet not ECM...ECM is more a set of movements. Nevertheless, I have offered critiques of Emergent Village, Spencer Burke, and the Emerging church in general before on this blog.
Surly Dave
· 2 years ago
Mark, I read the comment you posted over at this guys blog and was struck by the observation that we tend to ignore the 1700 years of history and development before the, err...1700's.
Thanks for challenging me once again.
Surly Dave
· 2 years ago
Mark, I read the comment you posted over at this guys blog and was struck by the observation that we tend to ignore the 1700 years of history and development before the, err...1700's.
Thanks for challenging me once again.
Luke
· 2 years ago
Spiffy new site! But did I miss something? Does this mean the publisher also accepted your proposal for The Jesus Manifesto?
Also, FYI: in Firefox but not in IE the borders to the textboxes for name, mail, website, and comment text are nearly invisible, which probably makes things slightly confusing to those unfamiliar with blog commenting (who happen to use Firefox). Dunno if you're getting the same effect.
Luke
· 2 years ago
Spiffy new site! But did I miss something? Does this mean the publisher also accepted your proposal for The Jesus Manifesto?
Also, FYI: in Firefox but not in IE the borders to the textboxes for name, mail, website, and comment text are nearly invisible, which probably makes things slightly confusing to those unfamiliar with blog commenting (who happen to use Firefox). Dunno if you're getting the same effect.
markvans
· 2 years ago
Luke,
I'll look into the formatting issue; thank you for the heads-up.
I've thought through the two-books idea and realized that the best approach is to write one book. That means that this book will be a bit more basic and accessible than I had intended for the "resistance" part of the book. I think that is a good thing; it allows me to get the basic idea across and then to write a follow-up book or books that go deeper.
markvans
· 2 years ago
Luke,
I'll look into the formatting issue; thank you for the heads-up.
I've thought through the two-books idea and realized that the best approach is to write one book. That means that this book will be a bit more basic and accessible than I had intended for the "resistance" part of the book. I think that is a good thing; it allows me to get the basic idea across and then to write a follow-up book or books that go deeper.
Dave C
· 2 years ago
Cool looking new digs.
Dave C
· 2 years ago
Cool looking new digs.
markvans
· 2 years ago
Thanks. I've definitely gotten better at design in the past two years, but I think I lucked out with this design. It not only looks better, but it feels more cohesive than my old blog.
By the way Dave, I got your message. Sorry I was unable to answer your call; I would have liked to grab a cup o' coffee with you.
markvans
· 2 years ago
Thanks. I've definitely gotten better at design in the past two years, but I think I lucked out with this design. It not only looks better, but it feels more cohesive than my old blog.
By the way Dave, I got your message. Sorry I was unable to answer your call; I would have liked to grab a cup o' coffee with you.
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dlw
dlw
I read the comment you posted over at this guys blog and was struck by the observation that we tend to ignore the 1700 years of history and development before the, err...1700's.
Thanks for challenging me once again.
I read the comment you posted over at this guys blog and was struck by the observation that we tend to ignore the 1700 years of history and development before the, err...1700's.
Thanks for challenging me once again.
Also, FYI: in Firefox but not in IE the borders to the textboxes for name, mail, website, and comment text are nearly invisible, which probably makes things slightly confusing to those unfamiliar with blog commenting (who happen to use Firefox). Dunno if you're getting the same effect.
Also, FYI: in Firefox but not in IE the borders to the textboxes for name, mail, website, and comment text are nearly invisible, which probably makes things slightly confusing to those unfamiliar with blog commenting (who happen to use Firefox). Dunno if you're getting the same effect.
I'll look into the formatting issue; thank you for the heads-up.
I've thought through the two-books idea and realized that the best approach is to write one book. That means that this book will be a bit more basic and accessible than I had intended for the "resistance" part of the book. I think that is a good thing; it allows me to get the basic idea across and then to write a follow-up book or books that go deeper.
I'll look into the formatting issue; thank you for the heads-up.
I've thought through the two-books idea and realized that the best approach is to write one book. That means that this book will be a bit more basic and accessible than I had intended for the "resistance" part of the book. I think that is a good thing; it allows me to get the basic idea across and then to write a follow-up book or books that go deeper.
By the way Dave, I got your message. Sorry I was unable to answer your call; I would have liked to grab a cup o' coffee with you.
By the way Dave, I got your message. Sorry I was unable to answer your call; I would have liked to grab a cup o' coffee with you.