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Monk-in-Training — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:18:12 -0000

I loved how you gored the ox of the conservatives and liberals with the same message. Very good.

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Monk-in-Training — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:18:12 -0000

I loved how you gored the ox of the conservatives and liberals with the same message. Very good.

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SKS — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:02:57 -0000

Hi. Nicely done.
I didn't see that this was a satire until reading the comments - but it didn't matter. Obviously false.
Even if some ancient text was found recording this, it should be clear that the ancient chronicler would be misquoting to suit his own purpose - Because, the message is so completely inconsistent with all other texts & and any other record describing Jesus' life and teaching. Or any wise teaching.
The 'message' in the satire is what all too many people slip into anyway - hardly requires anyone to teach it.
Is the next "manuscript" going to have Jesus passing by the nasty crowd with the adulturess, and saying to them: "ok, you who has the most sins, throw the first stone!?"
Uh, God sends his Son to create a new covenant with humanity (or just an extraordinary human teacher), who says ... "if someone pushes you, push the bugger back harder." Don't think so.

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SKS — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:02:57 -0000

Hi. Nicely done.
I didn't see that this was a satire until reading the comments - but it didn't matter. Obviously false.

Even if some ancient text was found recording this, it should be clear that the ancient chronicler would be misquoting to suit his own purpose - Because, the message is so completely inconsistent with all other texts & and any other record describing Jesus' life and teaching. Or any wise teaching.

The 'message' in the satire is what all too many people slip into anyway - hardly requires anyone to teach it.

Is the next "manuscript" going to have Jesus passing by the nasty crowd with the adulturess, and saying to them: "ok, you who has the most sins, throw the first stone!?"

Uh, God sends his Son to create a new covenant with humanity (or just an extraordinary human teacher), who says ... "if someone pushes you, push the bugger back harder." Don't think so.

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Mark Van Steenwyk — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:19:08 -0000

Thanks Jonathan.

Regarding the "satire-ishness" of this article. The satire all hinges in the responses at the end. I'm exploiting the stereotypes of liberals and conservatives by making liberals ambivalent to the discovery and making conservatives happy about it.

I guess my level of skepticism is so naturally high that I always assume my works of satire are easily distinguishable as such. I think I'll end each work of satire with an editor's note.

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Jonathan Brink — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:52:32 -0000

I actually spent an entire day thinking about this, which was a great exercise, because I didn't get that it was satire.

Regardless, I think you'll find a good solution.

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Mark Van Steenwyk — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:19:08 -0000

Thanks Jonathan.

Regarding the "satire-ishness" of this article. The satire all hinges in the responses at the end. I'm exploiting the stereotypes of liberals and conservatives by making liberals ambivalent to the discovery and making conservatives happy about it.

I guess my level of skepticism is so naturally high that I always assume my works of satire are easily distinguishable as such. I think I'll end each work of satire with an editor's note.

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Jonathan Brink — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:52:32 -0000

Mark, I love satire and think you write it well. But satire is a typically, but not always, based on making fun of something that is absurd in general. This post skirted those lines. It didn't appear to make fun of something. Although several people found the last two paragraphs funny.

I actually spent an entire day thinking about this, which was a great exercise, because I didn't get that it was satire.

Regardless, I think you'll find a good solution.

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Mike Cline — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:05:44 -0000

It's either some sort of tag line, or you are going to see some video on you tube trying to disclaim your Christianity. :) pick your poison

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Mike Cline — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:05:44 -0000

It's either some sort of tag line, or you are going to see some video on you tube trying to disclaim your Christianity. :) pick your poison

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Jordan Peacock — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:32:09 -0000

I use Google reader as well; a small trailer would be wise. Without it I would not be surprised to one day see some poor undiscerning news source running with one of our satirical pieces. It has happened before, just not to JM.

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Jordan Peacock — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:32:09 -0000

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Ryan Georgioff — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:33:15 -0000

Yeah I would encourage you to add that it is a work of satire at the end.

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Ryan Georgioff — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:33:15 -0000

Yeah I would encourage you to add that it is a work of satire at the end.

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Mark Van Steenwyk — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:36:30 -0000

I suppose, I could write "by the way...this was a work of satire" at the end of each post. That would be a middle ground, I suppose.

Does anyone else have an opinion on this?

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Jonathan Brink — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:22:44 -0000

Mark, I would remember that not everyone reads this on your site. Google Reader as example does not display "satire". Undiscerning readers may get pretty scared, as did Jerry. I actually didn't take it as satire until today when I read it on your blog. It's the fine line of satire.

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Mark Van Steenwyk — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:36:30 -0000

I get it, Jonathan. But if someone has Jesus Manifesto in their RSS feed, you'd think they'd eventually realize that there is a 1/10 chance that it is satire. If I write "SATIRE" in bold letters at the top of every post, it will take away the power that satire has...that you don't know it is satire until the end, or until you reflect upon it.

I suppose, I could write "by the way...this was a work of satire" at the end of each post. That would be a middle ground, I suppose.

Does anyone else have an opinion on this?

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Jonathan Brink — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:22:44 -0000

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Jerry Ebner — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:02:54 -0000

Is this story very credible or not?

Is there a real news source for this at all.

Is this just somebody's idea of a joke?

Please send to me reliable credible news sourses.

Thanks, Jerry Ebner cwomaha@gmail.com

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Jerry Ebner — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:02:54 -0000

Is this story very credible or not?

Is there a real news source for this at all.

Is this just somebody's idea of a joke?

Please send to me reliable credible news sourses.

Thanks, Jerry Ebner cwomaha@gmail.com

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Jason Barr — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:35:10 -0000

Err, by the way, nice job with the satire - I thought it did a good job of highlighting problems with some styles of both conservatives and liberals.

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Jason Barr — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:34:21 -0000

We read from an image of it in my Greek class, so I thought I recognized it. That was pretty cool, but not nearly as cool as when we got to go to London and actually read from Codices Sinaiticus and Alexandrinus in their display case (we were already in England at the time, so it's not like we flew across the ocean just to read from the two manuscripts).

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Jason Barr — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:35:10 -0000

Err, by the way, nice job with the satire - I thought it did a good job of highlighting problems with some styles of both conservatives and liberals.

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Jason Barr — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:34:21 -0000

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Mark Van Steenwyk — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:23:53 -0000

It is indeed p52! Good eye.