DISQUS

the Jesus Manifesto: The Systematic Exclusion of Jesus from Christianity

  • Steve · 4 years ago
    I did look at his site, as well as gander at some of his other writings. I guess I would have to say, that although I would agree that we are missing part of the message of Jesus in our churches, we certainly do not need to DE-EMPHISIZE his soterological work of forensic atonement on the cross. Steve Bush is a NT Wright guy, who is sympathetic to the whole annilationism concept (see http://www.reconstruction.us/forums/viewthread....).

    So, his starting point is so radically different from mine. Yes, all that he says is true, but NOT to the exclusion of Jesus death and resurrection being for my INDIVIDUAL eternal salvation. 2 Corinthians 4 and 5 make no sense otherwise. What do you all think?

    Steve
  • Van S · 4 years ago
    I don't think he's excluding individual salvation. I think he's lifting up the "already" of the Kingdom of God. Perhaps he lifts it above the "not yet" but I would argue that lifting the "not yet" above the "already" is about as destrucive as the reverse.
  • Blorge · 4 years ago
    I don't think that annilationism is necessarily a threat to a robust idea of salvation. If you think it is, you at least run the risk of the hell, fire and brimstone preaching that leads to salvation as "fire insurance" rather than as being united with Christ in his and your sufferings, death and resurrection.